Ted Neward has an entry on how some people in the .NET community is a bit ignorant to the mistakes made by Java folks in the past here. Sadly the same mistake is still beeing made in Javaland today, but it’s probably getting better. 4 layers if indirection doesn’t help much if 100% of the data is beeing passed through all the layers. It just gives you heaps of code to maintain when something changes.
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